The Muzzle Video
Yeah. Does anybody think there was one made?

Hmm.. was there rumoured to be one made? I dont' think I've ever heard of it.

Well, everyone was saying that it was going to be the final single instead of Thirty Three, but then Jimmy and Johnny OD'd, so apparently they used Thirty Three because Jimmy didn't play in it. There are rumors of a Muzzle video being made, but never released cause of this. I must say though, I really love Thirty Three and it's video. The Vid is so beautiful and amazing.

The only mention of it I've ever heard of came from the B-C forum where there was a thread discussing what the video ought to look like... but nothing beyond that. I'd love to see one though, it would be the kind of song that would do well with a video.

I wonder if it was the one they were originally going to put literal-symbolism with?

If there was a muzzle video, we would have seen it on the Grea-*test*-('") Hits DVD. After all, we did get to see the unreleased \"I Am One\" video on there. I never even knew the \"I Am One\" video existed before that, and I don't think even most of the people who claim to be 'leet' knew about it. I seem to remember hearing something about them choosing \"Thirty-Three\" over \"Muzzle\" because of Jimmy no longer being in the band. I had also heard a rumor that radio -*test*-('") audiences didn't like it enough, but that was probably bullshit. Regardless of whether Jimmy played on a particular song or not, I think \"Thirty-Three\" was probably chosen because it was more appropriate as the last single, given Jimmy's absence. It had a more contemplative tone to it.

Probably. But still, maybe it was never finished or something. Would have been good if there was one. But something else to think about, the TV release of Untitled was a different video to the one on GH.

Yeah, I have hardly seen the TV release one, when it's uploaded here I can't wait to get it downloaded xD

Theres a torrent of when Billy was programing Rage (a video show in Aus), somebody recorded it but i can't find the link. Anyway, it's in dvd quality and has all the videos including The End Is The Beggining Is The End and the alternate Untitled.

Sorry it's not being uploaded here, i was thinking of another forum, sorry.

The torrent might be on one of the older threads, I'm not sure.

There never was one filmed http://www.spfc.org/online/qualityposts.html?content_id=542 somewhere in there it's a good interview as well

Copyright of the Pumpkins, eh. You never know though. I was thinking the other day that there should be a Veiuphoria II like there was Earphoria II. Billy made my point about technology being so accessible (I keep talking about hearddrives in that Machina thread i started)

Are you talking about the fan compiled Earphoria II? Or the Earphoria reissue (ie being officially released with new packaging rather than just as a promo)? I wish there was an official Vieuphoria 2. There is a fan made Vieuphoria 2. I have it. It was made before DVD technology existed. It includes performances from concerts and tv appearances from the Mellon Collie era. It was created by Peter Thorton.